Things are not like they used to be.

**imported_PioneerBlue** · November 26th, 2007, 12:30 AM

Well IMHO he fixed it so Brad could put up big numbers passing

**sup-rbeast** · November 26th, 2007, 12:32 AM

That is a better analysis. Fact is tho: PV is still undefeated in State Finals from the I (6), won one from a variation of the T, and hasn't won shiz since they installed they spread.

**PVVikeFan** · November 26th, 2007, 06:50 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PioneerBlue</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well IMHO he fixed it so Brad could put up big numbers passing</div></div>

BINGO

**Gotch** · November 26th, 2007, 07:36 PM

At the end of last year I posted my opinion that PV was waisting more talent these days than I had ever seen and that the spread needed to go.

I got lambasted by everyone who posted a reply.

I don't follow football the way I use to but didn't the team that beat Burton last year basically just line it up and run it at you? Isn't that what Giles does? Isn't that what has allowed Burton to throw effectively? Isn't that how Gate City just sent PV home?

Talking about the linemen being too small is a bunch of crap. If they aren't good enough or tough enough that could have been solved by hard work in the weight room and on the practice field. Not sure that is happening.....

**pvfan** · November 26th, 2007, 08:17 PM

To say the spread hasn't worked is just not looking at things, we went to the spread in 02, since then GC has beat us 4 times and we've won 6. I'll take 60% over GC from now til the end of time. Against Norton we are 3-3 and this was probably the best run they have ever had. Giles we are 1-1 with each time blowing the other out, if we had the lineman I'd be all for going to the I and other running sets. I agree hard work is needed but if you are the coach and you know how much your kids have worked and they dont show the ability to be able to run out of the I why would you line them up in it?

**Gotch** · November 26th, 2007, 08:33 PM

Who says they haven't shown a ability to run the football. We can't possibly know because a real effort hasn't been made to see.

Look, the spread was the right thing to do one year and one year only. They had good receivers a good QB and no fullback. You work around your talent and that was the right move. It was good coaching.

It should have been scrapped the next year. It has however since become painfully obvious to most that it is now a case of stubbornness.

**Gotch** · November 26th, 2007, 08:36 PM

Here's a question for you guys who follow the game a lot closer than I do today.

How many teams have won D1 or D2 titles running primarily out of the spread. I know of one. Have there been others?

**firststrike** · November 27th, 2007, 10:33 PM

Most the double a and tripple a schools are in the spread.william campbell is a spread team and so is manassas park.
The formation youre team is in is a small part of winning or losing.

**vikescoach** · November 28th, 2007, 04:25 PM

Only lost to Seymour once, by the way....

**pvfan** · November 28th, 2007, 04:28 PM

I never said anything about Seymour but they lost to them twice. One time we missed a field goal or something, and then we got blown out the next year over at there place.